Thank you Susie, I'm no master of them myself and have had to dig out a never used bow maker to play. I used my hand for this one though, held the end with my thumb, wrapped it around 4 fingers twice then passed the other end through the middle of the fingers, round the ribbon and tied, hope that makes sense. I'm still not sure i have this in the bag yet, thanks to 3d gel they seem to stay put thankfully lol.